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MusicIsLifeXx86
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It appears that at least one American Idol 7 contestant, Michael Johns, lip synced his performance on the Top 12 boys performance Tuesday night. But why? The answer could be very simple: iTunes downloads.

But first, the video of Michael Johns’ lip-sync:

youtube.com: Michael Johns - ‘Light My Fire’

Start watching at 1:40.

Around 1:50, Johns’ mouth is turned away from the mic, yet the vocals remain at a steady level.

And around 2:04 his mouth again isn’t anywhere near the mic.

Then look again at the editing during these segments.

At 1:50 the camera pulls back, making it hard, but not impossible to see the lip-sync.

And at 2:04, the lip-sync is cleverly edited out of frame.

Remember: Tuesday’s show was pre-taped, giving producers the ability to edit or mask obvious lip-sync moments such as these.

But why have the Idol contestants lip-sync?

How about iTunes agreement to sell songs and videos of the Idol contestants the day after the show airs?

The pressure to have a product online and available only hours being recorded is immense.

If the vocal tracks are pre-taped, the performance can be tweaked to correct mistakes, pitchyness and rough spots.

If you don’t think stuido editing has been done with every song in the top 100 right now, think again.

Pre-recorded performances help streamline the process of iTunes making the audio available for download only hours after the performance.

While the end result is artistically and aesthetically lame, American Idol’s and iTunes’ digital download business model is a sensible one.

It replaces the existing broken one, in which Idol winners and runners-up release CDs months after the competition, only to be met with slumping sales and indifference.

And this is a business, after all.

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I don't believe this! It's like anything to make a GOOD guy look BAD! It pisses me off too.
Lets say for instance if it was true he probably wouldn't be the first. People need to grow up and quit posting s*it about people. Just 'cause there jealous cause MJ is the best on the show! **** them!

**Sorry just a LITTLE mad**I'm sure others feel the same**
Judy
I don't believe it either,what would be the purpose ? It's a singing competition,it would defeat the whole purpose of the show !
xxmissxx
I've watched and re-watched his performance on Tuesday, it's still in my Tivo, and I can't see what they say is there. And trust me I watch Michael pretty closely wink.gif
Anyway, I think it's a bunch of crap. I saw this posted on a different site but didn't read it, but it's always the same old flamer sites that try to bring in the whole "American Idol conspiracy" Ya know where the show is rigged and all that other crap. Whatever, Michael doesn't need to lip sync his voice is amazing.

Chalk it up to haters and brush it off smile.gif
MusicIsLifeXx86
QUOTE(xxmissxx @ Feb 22 2008, 10:35 PM) *
I've watched and re-watched his performance on Tuesday, it's still in my Tivo, and I can't see what they say is there. And trust me I watch Michael pretty closely wink.gif
Anyway, I think it's a bunch of crap. I saw this posted on a different site but didn't read it, but it's always the same old flamer sites that try to bring in the whole "American Idol conspiracy" Ya know where the show is rigged and all that other crap. Whatever, Michael doesn't need to lip sync his voice is amazing.

Chalk it up to haters and brush it off smile.gif

I KNOW, SERIOUSLY!
His voice keeps playing over and over and over again in my head. He's just so addicting! wink.gif
chaotica
It's pure nonsense thought up by idiots who want to bring him down because they think he's a "plant" and "the chosen one" (which he is not). I wish some people would do more productive things with their lives.
Ren
HUh? huh.gif WHAt!??!!! angry.gif This can't be true. He's voice is soooo amazing that theres no word to describe it. Whatever they say, Michael is one-of-a-kind and there's no way to say his not! Gosh, Sorry! ohmy.gif
Keish72582
what a load of crap.

people are ALWAYS going to try to bring down someone that is legitamately good. they are either jealous or they want to stir up some dirt b/c the person that is their favorite isn't doing so well.

ignore the haters.
Alyssa
hmmmmm wonder what they will say NEXT laugh.gif tongue.gif

I agree their just jealous of Michael so to US his fans it's a good thing to know wink.gif
Look at what Chris Daughtry "DAUGHTRY" has to go through with fame comes negativity take it with a grain of salt Peeps don't stoop to their level LET EVERYONE OUT THERE KNOW MICHAEL ARE THE BEST FANS!!!!!! wink.gif
MusicIsLifeXx86
Alyssa - Yeah, DAUGHTRY being my all time favorite band I know what you mean. And Chris is the most successful that came out of that season on Idol.
Therfore, you don't have to win and things that are said about MJ really don't matter 'cause he knows who he is and as do we!
sara
Thats not true. They have microphones clipped to theirshirts and that would NOT be allowed on American idol. Plus on videoa the audio isnt always lined up w/ the video.
sara
yahh i just watched that its so not true the video isnt lined up w/ the video
dusty
Michael doesn't need to lip synch. He's good enough without props like that.


"appears that at least one American Idol 7 contestant, Michael Johns, lip synced his performance on the Top 12 boys performance Tuesday night. But why? The answer could be very simple: iTunes downloads.

But first, the video of Michael Johns’ lip-sync:

youtube.com: Michael Johns - ‘Light My Fire’

Start watching at 1:40.

Around 1:50, Johns’ mouth is turned away from the mic, yet the vocals remain at a steady level.

And around 2:04 his mouth again isn’t anywhere near the mic.

Then look again at the editing during these segments.

At 1:50 the camera pulls back, making it hard, but not impossible to see the lip-sync.

And at 2:04, the lip-sync is cleverly edited out of frame.

Remember: Tuesday’s show was pre-taped, giving producers the ability to edit or mask obvious lip-sync moments such as these.

But why have the Idol contestants lip-sync?

How about iTunes agreement to sell songs and videos of the Idol contestants the day after the show airs?

The pressure to have a product online and available only hours being recorded is immense.

If the vocal tracks are pre-taped, the performance can be tweaked to correct mistakes, pitchyness and rough spots.

If you don’t think stuido editing has been done with every song in the top 100 right now, think again.

Pre-recorded performances help streamline the process of iTunes making the audio available for download only hours after the performance.

While the end result is artistically and aesthetically lame, American Idol’s and iTunes’ digital download business model is a sensible one.

It replaces the existing broken one, in which Idol winners and runners-up release CDs months after the competition, only to be met with slumping sales and indifference.

And this is a business, after all."



First...the studio recordings for the AI top 12 are different lengths than the live performance version on Tuesday nights.

Michael's video of his "Across the Universe" performance is 1:59 and that includes the spinning AI logo at the beginning and the end--so even less than that is singing time.

His studio recording is 3:40, nearly twice the length of the performance video. The studio recording has more verses.

One reason David A may have forgotten the lyrics to his song on Tuesday is that they have to know the longer version for Monday night when they record their studio version.. By recording them on Monday night they are able to get them out soon after their performances on Tuesday.

Phil from last season said that it was confusing to then go on stage and sing a shorter version and commented that a few forgot their lyrics last year but the judges did not catch all the flubs.

And as for "fixing the mistakes", if you want the actual performance version, then buy the performance video (or watch it on you tube ).


One request--please add the link to where you got the post...and I would also suggest to those who are posting news articles to also post the link to the articles. Thanks!
MusicIsLifeXx86
It was obviously rumor because it was only found from that one place and for that one day basically. So there's really no need to discuss it anymore.

We all know Michael doesn't lip synch and that's all that matters. TRUE FANS are the only people who matter! ♥
MusicIsLifeXx86
QUOTE(dusty @ Mar 16 2008, 05:55 PM) *
One request--please add the link to where you got the post...and I would also suggest to those who are posting news articles to also post the link to the articles. Thanks!

I did have the link to the article. The link was the word CLICK in the first post.
sara
they arent even allowed to
MusicIsLifeXx86
Sara - Yes, we know. What's the point of a singing competition if you are going to lip synch?! HA, there is NONE!
dusty
I did have the link to the article. The link was the word CLICK in the first post.

Sorry, I should have posted that comment separately...I meant that for the OP, not you.

I am just encouraging everyone to provide links when they bring material from somewhere else...we need to consider the source. There are really snarky boards, like VFTW or TOP... and then there are friendly boards, like here. smile.gif
Ren
Yah, Super Friendly Site here! wink.gif
MusicIsLifeXx86
Dusty - OK. It's no big deal. smile.gif
sara
i wonder what he'll SING this week
OkGo
read the comments on that site... everyone is saying the same thing>> ITS NOT TRUE
dancingpill
I watched it again and no, i didn't see it. They're just trying to bring him down but his career is not even starting! dry.gif blink.gif
C Diddy (L) Michael Johns
he does not lip sync. hes too good.
MusicIsLifeXx86
It's fine guys. We already know he didn't or else it would be a bigger deal than what it was. It was just from that ONE site.
flytyingdiva
QUOTE(MusicIsLifeXx86 @ Apr 1 2008, 05:55 PM) *
It's fine guys. We already know he didn't or else it would be a bigger deal than what it was. It was just from that ONE site.

My dish DVD does this alot, when recording drives me crazy sometimes, it's the equipment coping, they wouldn't let him lip synk.
aussiehottie
QUOTE(MusicIsLifeXx86 @ Feb 22 2008, 07:59 PM) *
CLICK

I don't believe this! It's like anything to make a GOOD guy look BAD! It pisses me off too.
Lets say for instance if it was true he probably wouldn't be the first. People need to grow up and quit posting s*it about people. Just 'cause there jealous cause MJ is the best on the show! **** them!

**Sorry just a LITTLE mad**I'm sure others feel the same**

That's bullcrap!!
WTF? People that start rumors like this don't have a life!
dusty
You have to consider the source. It was written by a snarky blog site. It does not carry a lot of weight.

It wasn't true and this blog was weeks ago. I hope this thread dies out, lol.
MusicIsLifeXx86
QUOTE(dusty @ Apr 3 2008, 06:27 PM) *
You have to consider the source. It was written by a snarky blog site. It does not carry a lot of weight.

It wasn't true and this blog was weeks ago. I hope this thread dies out, lol.

I know! I'm trying to say it's no big deal and everyone seems to want to go on and on about it. It's weeks ago and obviously if ANY of it was true MICHAEL WOULD NOT BE ON THE SHOW!

So everyone - PLEASE Forget about it! It's just bringing more attention to the lip synching factor and I don't think that anyone wants to think about him LIP SYNCHING. We know the TRUE Michael and the TRUE Michael DOES NOT lip synch. This thread needs to die out like Dusty said because it's not important any longer. I just thought I'd share about what haters say but didn't expect it to last THIS long. It's pathetic. If you post here just ignore the whole lip synching post and respond to either Dusty's above post or this because Dusty has a good point! The point I've been trying to make the whole time since it has gotten 'out of control'.

The end.
Ren
QUOTE(MusicIsLifeXx86 @ Apr 3 2008, 04:25 PM) *
I know! I'm trying to say it's no big deal and everyone seems to want to go on and on about it. It's weeks ago and obviously if ANY of it was true MICHAEL WOULD NOT BE ON THE SHOW!

So everyone - PLEASE Forget about it! It's just bringing more attention to the lip synching factor and I don't think that anyone wants to think about him LIP SYNCHING. We know the TRUE Michael and the TRUE Michael DOES NOT lip synch. This thread needs to die out like Dusty said because it's not important any longer. I just thought I'd share about what haters say but didn't expect it to last THIS long. It's pathetic. If you post here just ignore the whole lip synching post and respond to either Dusty's above post or this because Dusty has a good point! The point I've been trying to make the whole time since it has gotten 'out of control'.

The end.


Yeah.. so true!! dry.gif When fans blew mad- Stupid bloggers love it and they'll do more coz they know that we are easily mad and they'll make fun of Michael more!... SO DON'T EVER POST THAT'S RELATED TO THIS STUPID STUFF... THEY'LL JUST GET TIRED OF MAKING RUMORS.. WHAT'S NEXT?? laugh.gif

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